"Long_Voyager94" (yourenotavalidusername)
04/24/2020 at 13:15 • Filed to: Banned
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"Long_Voyager94" (yourenotavalidusername)
04/24/2020 at 13:15 • Filed to: Banned | 7
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Apparently when you tell one of the moderators of a forum to give data to prove their opinion they ban you instead of admitting they have nothing....
Oh well.
Long story short:
The mod and his friend came on a guy’s post about building a custom intake and made claims that Intake Modifications would have no effect on power/torque on the Pentastar engine, all we were doing way throwing money away to make more noise . He was an engineer so he understood these things better than most people.
I offered up multiple dyno runs and testing that proved him wrong.
He doubled down saying that the gains would only be seen under wide open throttle, so they would have no effect in real world use and posted a Govt article about testing of clean vs dirty air filters claiming it was proof.
I called him out on using said article on a discussion about intake modifications as it doesn’t apply, then asked him to please provide proof of his opinion.
At which I got banned and the 2 threads this went on in got deleted.
For Sweden
> Long_Voyager94
04/24/2020 at 12:46 |
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Dang the action on the Mopar van forums is spicy
fintail
> Long_Voyager94
04/24/2020 at 12:47 |
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Reminds me of talented crew of the FP, instead they just shadowban as they lack the cojones to come out and say it. Never call out an entitled internet “expert”.
Thisismydisplayname
> Long_Voyager94
04/24/2020 at 12:48 |
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Oh do tell. We must know the rest of the story.
Wacko
> Long_Voyager94
04/24/2020 at 12:48 |
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Did you piss off a soccer mom?
ranwhenparked
> Long_Voyager94
04/24/2020 at 12:57 |
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Do Internet bans follow you to other sites, like when you get impeached as the president of a neighborhood association?
I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
> fintail
04/24/2020 at 13:04 |
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What did you do?
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Long_Voyager94
> ranwhenparked
04/24/2020 at 13:08 |
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Not that I’m aware of?
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Long_Voyager94
> Thisismydisplayname
04/24/2020 at 13:13 |
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Long story short:
The mod and his friend came on a guy’s post about building a custom intake and
made claims that Intake Modifications would have no effect on power/torque on the Pentastar engine. He was an engineer so he understood these things better than most people.
I offered up multiple dyno runs and testing that proved him wrong.
He doubled down saying that the gains would only be seen under wide open throttle, so they would have no effect in real world use and posted a Govt article about testing of clean vs dirty air filters.
I called him out on using said article on a discussion
about intake modifications as it doesn’t apply, then asked him to please provide proof of his opinion.
At which I got banned and the 2 threads in this went on in got deleted.
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Long_Voyager94
> For Sweden
04/24/2020 at 13:16 |
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Van people are very strong in their opinions.
Yes I know it is one of my faults as well.
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Long_Voyager94
> Wacko
04/24/2020 at 13:16 |
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Worse an engineer soccer dad!
Chariotoflove
> Long_Voyager94
04/24/2020 at 13:16 |
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Mod appointments are like political appointments. Competence to do the job is variable.
Nothing
> Long_Voyager94
04/24/2020 at 13:17 |
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I was banned from mazda6club years ago for posting a link to a local car meet. My ban is for 1,000 years.
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Long_Voyager94
> Nothing
04/24/2020 at 13:20 |
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I got a month.
Once I’m able to post again I plan on making a post calling the mod out on it.
The forum has become a shitshow with him and his buddy in charge, so I don’t even care at this point. Make my point and hope to get banned for life.
RacinBob
> Long_Voyager94
04/24/2020 at 13:30 |
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Lets discuss this, Are you describing the modification you made to the filter/pipe before the throttle body or are you talking about modifying the actual intake manifold. Please post a link on what you are describing.....
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Wacko
> Long_Voyager94
04/24/2020 at 14:09 |
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well if he is an engineer he had to be right.:)
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fintail
> I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
04/24/2020 at 14:11 |
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Q uestioned knowledge.
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Long_Voyager94
> Wacko
04/24/2020 at 15:57 |
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Clearly ;)
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Long_Voyager94
> RacinBob
04/24/2020 at 16:00 |
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In this instance it was intake mods like my resonator/flex delete or full cold air intakes. I would love to post links to show the shitshow, but he banned me and deleted the involved posts.
Previous instances had been headers, intake manifolds, big throttle bodies, etc.
According to the guy and his buddy , none of those things have any real world gains.
Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
> Long_Voyager94
04/24/2020 at 16:06 |
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TIL: V an dudes take their penstar very seriously.
good story though, that mod seems to have a hocky stick up his butt
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Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
> For Sweden
04/24/2020 at 16:06 |
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*penstar
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RacinBob
> Long_Voyager94
04/24/2020 at 16:17 |
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Well... I understood it was more responsive, was it at part throttle or at full?
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Long_Voyager94
> RacinBob
04/24/2020 at 16:35 |
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I notice it a lot in normal driving, the usual lag of the Penta is almost non-existent and it has noticeably more punch in the 2-4k rpm range.
I will say I don’t notice any extra up top, but dyno runs of similar mods on the Penta show it helping most in the 2-4500 range, giving anywhere from 9-15 ft-lbs extra torque . It only tends to give 1-2hp in the top end, so what I’m feeling makes perfect sense, and honestly is exactly what I was hoping for.
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RacinBob
> Long_Voyager94
04/24/2020 at 16:39 |
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So at part throttle. In otherwords, the cleaner path allows the air to accelerate more quickly in response to throttle changes. Remember if the airflow doesn’t change, neather does the power.
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RacinBob
> Long_Voyager94
04/24/2020 at 20:56 |
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It’s hard because it is hard to understand what happens and where the benefit is. As an example, on a CFM basis no headers is the least restrictive exhaust system, right? But when you visualize that the airflow is pulsing and that there are scavenging affects, its not so clear.
So what could in theory make no difference in restriction like what you are doing might mighti ly reinforce a resonant charge affect as you are making a longer resonator that syncs with valve opening and closing.
The long point here is that intake systems are resonant and not continues flow, just like exhaust systems and if you don’t understand that, you make bad decisions. So for the guy who says it won’t help at anything but full throttle, he needs to think about it a bit more. I learned it the hard way by home brewing civic Del Sol VTEC exhausts that what is obvious is rarely the case,
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Thisismydisplayname
> Long_Voyager94
04/26/2020 at 00:13 |
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Sheesh. So much for give and take.